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Dale Dauten: Leave ’em wanting more so they’ll want you to present more often

January 5, 2009/6 Comments/in Communications, Guest Blogger /by Mike Figliuolo

Dale DautenMy new friend Dale Dauten wrote the following column after we met at a conference where he heard me speak. This column was originally published in The Arizona Daily Star. He brings some great perspectives to the table. Here’s Dale:

Dale Dauten: Leave ’em wanting more so they’ll want you to present more often

“The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity.” — Dorothy Parker

Walt Disney once pointed out that the key to success is to do something so well that people will pay to see you do it again. So, using that as a standard, here’s the question: When was the last time you saw a business presentation that you would pay to see again? OK, that’s too much to ask. How about this: When was the last time you saw a presentation that you’d want to sit through twice?

If you’re a corporate employee, wouldn’t it be grand if your management actually looked forward to having you present instead of just pretending to look interested (after announcing just before you begin that they’d love to stay longer, but they have an important conference call in 15 minutes)?

One reason presentations have become exercises in forced concentration is the dumbest advice ever offered to presenters: the old Keep It Simple, Stupid. This leads to the Lucidity Paradox, where you make your points so clear that they disappear.

Another piece of classic advice to presenters is the old What’s In It For Me? principle, where your remarks address the audience’s self-interest. That would seem to be good thinking, but the fact is that most people have their self- interest figured out before you begin and come not to learn but to defend. So, instead of KISS or WIIFM, I say the best advice to follow comes from the people who know audiences best, the ones whose livelihood depends on knowing the audience: the folks in the entertainment business, who say, “Leave ’em wanting more.”

Let’s face it, the typical PowerPoint presentation is an exercise in leaving the audience wanting less. So how is it possible to cover a topic thoroughly and still leave the audience wanting more?

What got me thinking about that question was a presentation by Mike Figliuolo, a former corporate guy who’s now consulting on how thought processes influence communication, via his company, thoughtLEADERS (thoughtleadersllc.com). Here are three of his suggestions:

– “An individual’s compensation is inversely proportional to the number of PowerPoint pages he or she will tolerate before having a stroke.”

– “If it’s two pages, it’s not a summary.” (Figliuolo quotes one executive commenting on the readability of written reports as saying, “If it has a staple, I won’t read it.”)

– “When people start thinking, bad things happen.” (The advantage of moving quickly through a presentation is that, if you do it properly, you guide management to the conclusion you want them to reach before they have time to let their minds wander off onto another agenda.)

You can see where he’s going here — right to the point. Seems easy enough, but it isn’t. Why? Figliuolo points out that the person giving the presentation yearns to impress the boss, and the way to do that has always been by working hard. Thus, if you’re a typical corporate employee, you believe on some level that showing management all the research and data you’ve collected will impress them. Alas, it only impresses them that you think like the little people.

So, you keep it short but NOT simple — you keep it big and fast and leave them working to keep up. You have the details available, should they want to see them. They won’t. But, with some luck and skill, they’ll want to see you present more often.

– Dale Dauten is the founder of The Innovators’ Lab. Write to him in care of King Features Syndicate, 300 W. 57th St., 15th Floor, New York, NY 10019, or at dale@dauten.com.

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  1. Julie
    Julie says:
    January 6, 2009 at 9:14 am

    Absolutely spot on! Amazing how many of my colleagues I console after a meeting flopped because they did exactly what they shouldn’t have done.

    Thanks for the post!

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  2. Mike Figliuolo
    Mike Figliuolo says:
    January 6, 2009 at 9:21 am

    @Julie – glad you found it helpful. Would love if you’d ensure those tips happen at your organization going forward! We’re solving for miserable meetings one meeting at a time… Feel free to pass the article along to others to help us in this endeavor ;)

    Reply
  3. Christophe
    Christophe says:
    January 6, 2009 at 11:05 am

    Spot on Indeed ! What I like here is the Keep it Simple but Leave’em wanting more.

    I’d probably add, Leave’em wanting to contribute. People are signing bigger check when they feel it’s their idea too. In this economy where we are all even more competing for the same resources, getting the bigger check is by including people in your thinking. After all they will not argue with themselves if they believe this is theirs (following me ?). To get there, this is where people like Mike can help because it’s an art, back to Dale’s point about entertainment business.

    Thanks for this contribution Dale and Mike, really crisp and to the point…It leaves me wanting more :)

    Christophe

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  4. Mike Figliuolo
    Mike Figliuolo says:
    January 6, 2009 at 11:52 am

    @Christophe – as always, the thoughts are appreciated. You nailed it – help people get so bought into the idea that they think it’s their own. I don’t care if I get credit for the idea or not – I’m much more interested that it gets implemented for the good of the business. If that happens, I’m happy to have others take ownership for making the idea become a reality because in the end, we’re all better off when it gets implemented.

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  5. Scott Schwertly
    Scott Schwertly says:
    January 6, 2009 at 11:54 am

    Great post! I love the whole concept of “Leave ’em Wanting More.” It’s a great lesson for all of us. In fact, there is so much that can be learned from Hollywood when it comes to presentations. A personal favorite of mine is the Morgan Freeman Rule (related to his VO work) – 3 sentences and then cut to a new scene. What that means for all of us – say your main points and then “click” – new slide.

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  6. Mike Figliuolo
    Mike Figliuolo says:
    January 6, 2009 at 12:00 pm

    @Scott – cool illustration with the Morgan Freeman rule. A nice, simple way to think about it. Because, let’s be clear – after you’ve spoken about a single slide for more than 3 minutes, people start looking for objects to throw at your head…

    An aside: I’m fine with peeps reading a post and rating it one star (“Hated it”) – that’s why I have the ratings widget. Thing is, at least comment as to WHY you hated it otherwise you’re no better than Ego in Ratatouille (before he has his moment of consciousness and realizes it’s easy to be a critic because it takes no skill or creativity…). Just sayin’…

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